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		By: Chris		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2019 00:43:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi A. Thank you for your thoughtfulness. You hit the nail on the head, abuse comes in many forms.  And yes, it was indeed for my mental health as well as my spiritual health that I made the decision to stop going to church.  I may have left the church, but not my faith in God.  If I had, I would not be a part of this spiritual community.  Everyone knows the saying &quot;walk in the shoes of your brother for a mile&quot;.  I don&#039;t remember who coined that phrase,  but they were right.  Unless Mark has walked in my 71+ year old shoes, for the last 20 years, he cannot begin to comprehend what I have been through.  What I have shared is a drop in the bucket, a teeny tiny iota of what happened to me.  The humiliation started just under 20 years ago.  I shared my story with a trusted colleague and a nun.  It was the nun who, after hearing my story, and by the way knew the priest in question very well, said to me and I quote her verbatim &quot;that was tantamount to abuse&quot;.  I chose not to go the legal route given my age - and the church&#039;s powerful lawyers, I would probably die before there was a decision. ????????.  So, I&#039;m leaving it in the hands of God, and prayers of family and friends to see me through this difficult time. Keep me in your prayers dear A. God bless.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi A. Thank you for your thoughtfulness. You hit the nail on the head, abuse comes in many forms.  And yes, it was indeed for my mental health as well as my spiritual health that I made the decision to stop going to church.  I may have left the church, but not my faith in God.  If I had, I would not be a part of this spiritual community.  Everyone knows the saying &#8220;walk in the shoes of your brother for a mile&#8221;.  I don&#8217;t remember who coined that phrase,  but they were right.  Unless Mark has walked in my 71+ year old shoes, for the last 20 years, he cannot begin to comprehend what I have been through.  What I have shared is a drop in the bucket, a teeny tiny iota of what happened to me.  The humiliation started just under 20 years ago.  I shared my story with a trusted colleague and a nun.  It was the nun who, after hearing my story, and by the way knew the priest in question very well, said to me and I quote her verbatim &#8220;that was tantamount to abuse&#8221;.  I chose not to go the legal route given my age &#8211; and the church&#8217;s powerful lawyers, I would probably die before there was a decision. ????????.  So, I&#8217;m leaving it in the hands of God, and prayers of family and friends to see me through this difficult time. Keep me in your prayers dear A. God bless.</p>
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		By: Anonymous		</title>
		<link>https://www.acatholic.org/__trashed-7/#comment-14031</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2019 19:24:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hey A,

I will politely disagree.

We can all come up with reasons why not to attend mass. The list is pretty much endless. As I have said, the reason we do attend mass is to worship God.

If we are to talk about humiliation, being stripped and hung on a cross for all to see is probably the most humiliating way to die. As our Lord was being mocked and spat on He did not curse His accusers, before he died He forgave them.

Mark]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey A,</p>
<p>I will politely disagree.</p>
<p>We can all come up with reasons why not to attend mass. The list is pretty much endless. As I have said, the reason we do attend mass is to worship God.</p>
<p>If we are to talk about humiliation, being stripped and hung on a cross for all to see is probably the most humiliating way to die. As our Lord was being mocked and spat on He did not curse His accusers, before he died He forgave them.</p>
<p>Mark</p>
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		By: A		</title>
		<link>https://www.acatholic.org/__trashed-7/#comment-14029</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2019 17:31:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mark, Chris shouldn&#039;t have to go to church to suffer humiliation. That&#039;s abuse, at the hands of a priest and deacon, no less. Just because it wasn&#039;t sexual, for which the Church is infamous, doesn&#039;t mean that she should stand for it, and we should not encourage her to do so.

Keep on avoiding that church, Chris. Your mental health is precious, and God knows that, as well as your commitment to Him.

Too bad that priest and deacon couldn&#039;t have gotten suspended on abuse grounds. I guess HR isn&#039;t a factor in the Church. So desperate for clergy (solutions: married priests, women priests, yes, it&#039;s time), that anybody who receives Holy Orders is good enough, even though they don&#039;t model values of Christ.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark, Chris shouldn&#8217;t have to go to church to suffer humiliation. That&#8217;s abuse, at the hands of a priest and deacon, no less. Just because it wasn&#8217;t sexual, for which the Church is infamous, doesn&#8217;t mean that she should stand for it, and we should not encourage her to do so.</p>
<p>Keep on avoiding that church, Chris. Your mental health is precious, and God knows that, as well as your commitment to Him.</p>
<p>Too bad that priest and deacon couldn&#8217;t have gotten suspended on abuse grounds. I guess HR isn&#8217;t a factor in the Church. So desperate for clergy (solutions: married priests, women priests, yes, it&#8217;s time), that anybody who receives Holy Orders is good enough, even though they don&#8217;t model values of Christ.</p>
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		By: Anonymous		</title>
		<link>https://www.acatholic.org/__trashed-7/#comment-14024</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2019 22:05:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hey Chris,

First I&#039;d like to apologize for misspelling Abel.

Second, since John&#039;s reflection deals with the topic of hate and not resentment and crestfallen, let me use an example of why it&#039;s a little risky interchanging the words. Let&#039;s use the opposite example with the words of appreciative and love. If I am very much appreciative of a gift that you gave me doesn&#039;t mean that I love you. My point, God used the words &quot;resentful and crestfallen&quot; on purpose. Also, if we are talking about sin, hate is not the root of all sin. In my opinion, St Augustine of Hippo got it right when he wrote, &quot;&#039;Pride is the commencement of all sin&#039; because it was this which overthrew the devil, from whom arose the origin of sin...for the serpent, in fact, only sought for the door of pride whereby to enter when he said, &#039;Ye shall be as gods.&#039;&quot;

Lastly, I do feel sorry for your current situation. But, as I found out in the confessional, the reason that you go to church on Sunday is not because of the priest or deacon. The choir could be the worst in the country, the lector stuttered, the homily was the horrible, the baby next you cried the whole time and the person in front of you couldn&#039;t stop talking. And you could be humiliated by the priest at the end of mass. That wouldn&#039;t matter. The reason you go to church is to worship God.

Sorry for the long reply,

Mark]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Chris,</p>
<p>First I&#8217;d like to apologize for misspelling Abel.</p>
<p>Second, since John&#8217;s reflection deals with the topic of hate and not resentment and crestfallen, let me use an example of why it&#8217;s a little risky interchanging the words. Let&#8217;s use the opposite example with the words of appreciative and love. If I am very much appreciative of a gift that you gave me doesn&#8217;t mean that I love you. My point, God used the words &#8220;resentful and crestfallen&#8221; on purpose. Also, if we are talking about sin, hate is not the root of all sin. In my opinion, St Augustine of Hippo got it right when he wrote, &#8220;&#8216;Pride is the commencement of all sin&#8217; because it was this which overthrew the devil, from whom arose the origin of sin&#8230;for the serpent, in fact, only sought for the door of pride whereby to enter when he said, &#8216;Ye shall be as gods.'&#8221;</p>
<p>Lastly, I do feel sorry for your current situation. But, as I found out in the confessional, the reason that you go to church on Sunday is not because of the priest or deacon. The choir could be the worst in the country, the lector stuttered, the homily was the horrible, the baby next you cried the whole time and the person in front of you couldn&#8217;t stop talking. And you could be humiliated by the priest at the end of mass. That wouldn&#8217;t matter. The reason you go to church is to worship God.</p>
<p>Sorry for the long reply,</p>
<p>Mark</p>
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		By: Skip		</title>
		<link>https://www.acatholic.org/__trashed-7/#comment-14023</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2019 17:57:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Nice reflection John,  thank you. Off topic, the Gospel reading today is about the only time that I can see in any of the Gospels Jesus showing a sense of humor and having a good laugh over Nathaniel saying &quot;can anything good come from Nazareth&quot;?  And Jesus saying &quot;here is a true child of Isreal, there is no duplicity in him&quot;. I can only imagine a big smile and laugh coming from Jesus.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice reflection John,  thank you. Off topic, the Gospel reading today is about the only time that I can see in any of the Gospels Jesus showing a sense of humor and having a good laugh over Nathaniel saying &#8220;can anything good come from Nazareth&#8221;?  And Jesus saying &#8220;here is a true child of Isreal, there is no duplicity in him&#8221;. I can only imagine a big smile and laugh coming from Jesus.</p>
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		By: Chris		</title>
		<link>https://www.acatholic.org/__trashed-7/#comment-14022</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2019 16:42:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Anonymous Mark, it doesn&#039;t really matter whether scripture uses the words resented and jealousy to describe Cain&#039;s reaction.  Resentment and jealousy can fester turning to hate - the Bible, like most books, can&#039;t go into detail otherwise it would have to be divided into hundreds of books.  However of more important note to me, is that we justify our behaviour when we gossip about others, it inflates our egos.  I could have written that paragraph to describe the former  priest and current deacon of my parish who justified humiliating me. I have written about this before, and I have been trying very hard to recuperate from that dreadful time. It&#039;s been almost six months since I stopped going to this church of 28+ years.  Everything you wrote in that paragraph John reminds me that I still need to keep forgiving otherwise my anger will fester and turn to hate.  Thank you for your reflection, it touched me in a positive way.  God bless.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anonymous Mark, it doesn&#8217;t really matter whether scripture uses the words resented and jealousy to describe Cain&#8217;s reaction.  Resentment and jealousy can fester turning to hate &#8211; the Bible, like most books, can&#8217;t go into detail otherwise it would have to be divided into hundreds of books.  However of more important note to me, is that we justify our behaviour when we gossip about others, it inflates our egos.  I could have written that paragraph to describe the former  priest and current deacon of my parish who justified humiliating me. I have written about this before, and I have been trying very hard to recuperate from that dreadful time. It&#8217;s been almost six months since I stopped going to this church of 28+ years.  Everything you wrote in that paragraph John reminds me that I still need to keep forgiving otherwise my anger will fester and turn to hate.  Thank you for your reflection, it touched me in a positive way.  God bless.</p>
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		By: Anonymous		</title>
		<link>https://www.acatholic.org/__trashed-7/#comment-14021</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2019 14:56:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hey John,

Although I understand your point, you must be careful on your choice of words. 

&quot;Cain greatly resented this and was crestfallen&quot; (Gn 4:5) is not the same as Cain hated. One could make the case that Cain killed Able out of jealousy, not hate. The murder of Able represents how the &quot;Sin of the Garden&quot; reached a new level of evil.

Mark]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey John,</p>
<p>Although I understand your point, you must be careful on your choice of words. </p>
<p>&#8220;Cain greatly resented this and was crestfallen&#8221; (Gn 4:5) is not the same as Cain hated. One could make the case that Cain killed Able out of jealousy, not hate. The murder of Able represents how the &#8220;Sin of the Garden&#8221; reached a new level of evil.</p>
<p>Mark</p>
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		By: J		</title>
		<link>https://www.acatholic.org/__trashed-7/#comment-14020</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2019 13:30:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yesterday Carolyn wrote that you can not sin and love simultaneously.   That, combined with reading your post today made me think &quot;As we live, are we either in a state of sinning or loving? Is it that simple? &quot;.  I&#039;d love to hear other people&#039;s thoughts on that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yesterday Carolyn wrote that you can not sin and love simultaneously.   That, combined with reading your post today made me think &#8220;As we live, are we either in a state of sinning or loving? Is it that simple? &#8220;.  I&#8217;d love to hear other people&#8217;s thoughts on that.</p>
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